braid or mono for uptiding

Try both of them out and see for yourself which one you prefer. With a slow action rod and a bit of mono you'll have plenty of forgiveness with the braid. 100 lb braid ,I have a shop and have never stocked it or been asked for it!!! Once you breach that finish, the line is compromised." How many of you use braid + mono leader for poppers and walking baits with good success for top water ? 5 Mono is available in a range of bright colours – ideal for field casting. Sinks; Mono is cheaper than braid, yard for yard – although braid might be cheaper in the long run (more about this later). This is where line diameter comes into play - the diameter is what “catches” water and is the resistance. Hi All , before someone says look at old posts i have and still not sure what would be best for Bristol channel any channel regulars got an opinion . Mono is More Buoyant than Braid Due to a relatively low density, monofilament line floats — at first anyway. Hi Mate, Mono for uptiding and braid for down tide. Similar problems exist with braid jamming in its own coils when uptiding with braid and a multiplier from the boat. Mono bunch sabotaged Brady bunch tackle, and giant cod catch !!! Sometimes she lets me go fishing:clap3: Definately mono for me. braid defeats the object of uptiding...you want the line to catch in the tide thus pulling you weight into the seabed putting a lovely bend in your rod tip ....braid will work but mono is better downtiding braid rules cutting through the tide meaning you need a fraction of the weight to hold bottom that mono requires think it is Paul Wells. Re match sounds good, we could then the debate the virtues of uptide versus downtide, the various combinations are limitless. Mono sinks much better than braid does, which helps if you have a light current in your swim or very wary fish. We all use braid on my boat for uptiding in the Bristol Channel. 50lb braid is "standard" for frogging but it will still dig in on a big hookset or if you try to pull out a snag with the rod. I keep several rigs spooled up with both types.. Hey guys, Just wanna know what you guys like to use for fishing off the rocks, ive always used 25-30lb mono as i worry that the braid will be easily cut on rocks, also have had problems with line twists around my rig when using braid,when i wind in its tangled around the hook and sinker, this is one of the main reasons ive chosen to always use mono. A forum community dedicated to fishing and boat owners and enthusiasts. :laugh::laugh::laugh: Hi John, as for that near record fish that i dropped for you, i was taken back by the elastic properties of your trace. Braid can cut through your finger like cheese wire. Glad its settled- that's conclusive then . Braid is thin. Quote Reply Topic: kingfish tatics, braid or mono Posted: 22 Aug 2007 at 8:02pm. Come join the discussion about fishing guides, bait, safety, gear, tackle, tips, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! 03-29-2020, 03:57 PM #3. Before going into specifics, here are the main obvious differences in braid over mono: Braid has less stretch. Further, braid has less abrasion resistance than monofilament. The braid was fished off the stern and the mono up the sides. Once bitten,twice shy an all that!! The ability to crank and pull logs off the bottom, big pike, or whatever else is something a #30 braid can do, but certainly not a #8 mono. Here are the basics: Braid will allow you to fit more line on your spool, therefore, having more line or heavier lb test to fight a fish. Mono is less expensive than braid, but it is also very sensitive to salinity, heat, humidity, and sunlight, making it deteriorate rapidly after a few months of use. IMO its the one time you actually want the tide to pull your line hard rather than cut through it. Tarlach. Braid will also allow for better sensitivity as it has less stretch than mono. I use 30lb straight through, no leader required as it's only a lob up tide, and no leader means 1 less knot to give, pick up weed, get stuck on the tip ring when retrieving or the level wind when casting. Mono is more affordable than braid. Mono has a lot of give due to it's elasticity. My view is that they both work, I like pred-stretched mono .35dia, Tubertini Blue is a good one, use a leader. JavaScript is disabled. "Braid's strength is straight up and down," says John Drouet, sales manager for HiLiner (Diamond Fishing Products). However, what really sets braid apart from mono is how they compare when it comes to diameter. Every day I live with fear. Do you modify your ringing on the rod to accomodate the fixed spool? I've checked out the Avet pro 30, and with that reel I'll be able to get 500m of braid and a small top shot on. For me mono in those coditions but braid sure does pay when after bream and plaice on the boat , you are able to feel every tug and pull. Braid diameter is much thinner for the comparable breaking strains. On a neap tide, even 20lb I use will hold the boat for a bit. It also means i rarely have to use over 5oz of lead except in the biggest of tide runs. 4 Braid cannot be used efficiently on a multiplier reel, especially for long-range casting. Much bigger diameter than braid for similar breaking strength. Send Private Message. Being slightly permeable, monofilament will absorb a small amount of water over time, causing the line to slowly sink. If you have equal rated braid vs mono (in lbs), the braid will allow the lure to run deeper. Bronze Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Status: Offline Points: 51 I have heard from so many that braid is the preferred choice when jigging for kingfish which I agree with. JavaScript is disabled. Members Profile. Come join the discussion about fishing guides, bait, safety, gear, tackle, tips, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Braid. Braid is much more resistant to abrasions, which means that you'll never have to lose sleep again thinking about the one that got away. I run 50 lb braid with 30-40 ft of 30# mono top shot on mooching reels and slow action rods. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Today’s anglers use braid for numerous applications — not only for its tensile strength, but because of the way it behaves on the spool, particularly with spinning reels. The thinner the braid the more it will dig in. It's so thin that it won't make a huge difference in the tide flow. You should change your mono every season whereas braid can last for 3-4 seasons and more. You need some mono on top to hold the line in the clip. A forum community dedicated to fishing and boat owners and enthusiasts. Mono is also far more abrasion resistant. It has a much smaller diameter than mono and this has a lot of benefits. Braids are more tangle prone. Nothing really unless in very deep water where the low stretch comes into effect. Hi John, excellent read, the banter made up for the lack of fish, Steve cooked those onions to perfection, he should be on Master Chef. I think having a rod with each mono and braided line is a good idea. Braided line, made up of hundreds of small fibers, soaks up water very quickly and sinks right away. Tangles in braid are horrible things to sort out and i think that braid is more prone to tangles. the thought of trying to 'pull for a break' when snagged would put the fear of every god under the sun into me!!! could be a sticking point if the latter. Sounds like you had some fun out there John. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Dreaming of Norwegian Cod and Haddock.:busted_co. I much prefer mono for straylining. I would think unless a weak link is used, almost certainly cutting it, would be required:whistling. Anyone use a pennel? ... Im trying to cut down on having straight mono and FC line types by using braid as a mainline , then adding the proper leader type based on application (i.e. Each type of line has specific uses, according to Marty Stone. The power advantage of braid is obvious. Did the Braidy Bunch complain foul with the broken rod tip eye, cant remember. What strengths /diameter do you favour? Wrecking is pretty hard on lines and braid doesn't go huge on abrasion. Mono has the better potential to catch the tide and keep the bow in the line, of which of course you need for uptiding or cheaper thick braid. Abrasion resistance is very important when fishing over a rocky or snaggy bottom. I was experimenting with the new breed of braided lines ,on this particular day i was using an Ultima braid, Lionel was using Ultima Tournament mono. If you’ve hung around your local marinas long enough, chances are you’ve heard the debate between monofilament and braided line for bass fishing with topwaters. Quite stiff, especially in … just imagine the pull needed to break it. I think if you were a Sun Journalist you could write. That's because pound for pound, braid has a much smaller diameter than monofilament does. Mono holds my jig up in the water longer since it doesn’t sink. A few years ago Myself and Big Li fished in the Knuckle on Dover Breakwater around November time. Mono may be affordable but it degrades faster than braid. For me the advantage is the braid lasts a really long time and lays nice on and off the spool. Braided line has a ton of benefits, including increased casting distance, thinner diameter, it’s stronger than mono of the same test, and it allows you to feel every nibble and twitch of your bait or lure. Braid combats line twist better than mono or fluoro, and if used in lighter pound tests, it will outcast them as well. However, here’s one drawback to using braid: it’s complicated to put on a spinning reel. On the other hand, Pure Fishing's Norris ranks the abrasion resistance of braid higher than mono — of equivalent diameter. :doh: how about catching some fish??? Find Members Posts. Braid has much less line friction compared to mono so requires more turns in order to not unravel compared to what is needed with a “mono to mono” connection. Ps, The rod has a new tip, so you can stop feeling guilty now John. :crazy: Be interesting when that gets caught in a snag. My Confidence in mono gives a slight edge over braid for me,,just my experience in the waters I fish. knob . :fish::fish: Now now, lets get this right, I think the words DIRTY TRICKS come to mind, firstly the fact that John (Aquabell) could only be bothered to set 1 rod up for himself, was a ploy to leave himself with an excuse "we wasn't fishing as many rods as you 2", the fact we had 3 against 2 in the banter stakes, John-Steve-Alan Vs Myself-John, we was under constant duress from the mono-tones, "don't cut yourself on the piano wire lads", "rusting line" etc etc. Hope this helps. "Braid breaks down when the fibers abrade. Mono is cheaper and has more stretch which helps out in a few different circumstances. The age old question, is braid or mono better, or should I use braid or mono? I have been using braid for uptiding for some time now, requires lighter leads and the old style soft tip blank. You can use really strong braid to reduce fish breaking off. Re: braid The strength of the braid wont affect the stretch overly UHMWPE (Ultra high molecular weight polyethylene) the stuff most modern super braids are made from won't stretch much different 10lb or 100lb. In recent years, uptide rods have become more like modern beach casters with unsuitable (imho) power tips. With mono you get a good bend in your rod and you also get more instances where the fish hooks itself as once once freed from the bed by the fish your lead heads off down tide hooking the fish as it does so. :crazy: I tried braid for up tiding in the bristol channel around 4 years ago and have used it ever since, although the fused braid seems better than the woven to cast and lasts longer. This will make you visit the fishing shop more often to get a new line, and in the long run, it is possible to spend more money in mono than you would spend if you bought braid in the first place, which makes the braid the most profitable option. 2011 Species: Whiting, 5 bearded rockling, dab, codling, flounder, http://s495.photobucket.com/albums/rr314/col175/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I’ve lost a few big fish due to mono breakoffs and have more confidence that the line won’t break with braids like suffix or fireline. A soft tip rod is far better but i'd say thats the same for using braid or mono. Heavier (bigger diameter) line will not dive as deep. Imafisher46. While I disagree with most of what you have said, it is not the point of my post to debate who is right or wrong. Although diameters vary, 10 lb mono has the same diameter as 30lb braid. think its more a case of diameter mate .35 you wont go wrong for some lines thats 15lb while others it can be as much 20lb hope it helps. Click here to read about the best spinning reels and here to … Will the rest of the crew be mates or strangers? I use both mono and braid,, depends on the set-up for me..Floats or no floats, current or no current,,etc. A fixed-spool reel is the answer in both cases. Question for those guys using mono for uptiding. Re: Mono or Braid For Crank Baits « Reply #20 on: January 12, 2019, 11:22:07 AM » Went to flouro and havent looked back.Missouri is one big rock.It handles them really well. i have just loaded up all my reel's with 100lb .55mm bread and it work's for me :1a: 100lb Braid , I take it not for these shores then:bb: Jeez!! For Your free copy of 'The Bait Pumpers Bible' or for any bait pumping questions, please email Me at the following address (please note my new email address), VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Mono has the better potential to catch the tide and keep the bow in the line, of which of course you need for uptiding or cheaper thick braid. top water / mono) . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Many thanks Simon or should i ring skipper ? Add to Buddy List. Mono is transparent in the water so the fish are less likely to see it. 15lb braid is going to be hard to manage on a casting reel for anyone and if you are having trouble with 50lb braid then I would suggest trying like 10-12kb mono to start. Braid vs Mono for Surf Fishing. Hi Fella if you are fishing down the side of the boat use nylon cast towards the bow of the boat and feel for the lead hitting bottom then lets loads of line out to form a big bow then put the reel back in gear the tide should put a nice bend in your rods tip if you are fishing off the stern you can use braid just lowwer your bait down and bounce your bait down tide you do this by leaving your reel in free spool and cover the spool with your thumb again once you feel bottom clamp down lift your rod let line out until you feel bottom and repeat until you get a take some times you dont feel the bite its when you lock the spool you feel the extra weight on your line just click the reel into gear and wind in slowly do not pump the fish just keep steady pressure on and it will come towards you shout out Fish-On this should get the skipper ready with the gaff just going back when fishing over the side your rod tip should have a nice bend in the tip should you get a slack-line bite your rod tip will spring back just pick your rod up and wind in fast until you can feel the fish dont strike just wind in slowly keeping pressure on the fish hope this helps you its a great way to catch fish bait wise take squid blacks cart and mussel and razor tightlines Alain, braid defeats the object of uptiding...you want the line to catch in the tide thus pulling you weight into the seabed putting a lovely bend in your rod tip ....braid will work but mono is better, Thanks for the answers fellas , confirmed what i thought mono it is cheers Simon. [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy! In the Bristol Channel we have the second biggest tides in the world & they will put plenty of pressure on braid. Bearing in mind fishing the outside of the breakwater is still uptiding, the results of this exercise always put me off uptiding with braid for cods on my boat .To this day I still use mono for uptiding and braid for downtiding on the boat and will not use it … Braids are more expensive. tried the braid on a boat out of dungy,uptiding in 140 feet of water.held bottom no problem..could see every little tap and nibble,things you dont see with mono....skipper said he had seen some very big fish lost on braid...and if you get a birds nest ,then it is game over.i have not used braid since. Not only does the mono catch the tide better i find that braid can some times be harder to cast in windy conditions and a birds nest in braid is a big problem. We swapped rigs, swapped peg positions ,baits and even rods but the results were still the same- braid = dogs/mono= cods !!!!! Braid also does not hold some knots as well, because it’s slicker than mono (learn to tie a uni knot). Bearing in mind fishing the outside of the breakwater is still uptiding, the results of this exercise always put me off uptiding with braid for cods on my boat .To this day I still use mono for uptiding and braid for downtiding on the boat and will not use it ever from the beach!!. Braid is strong and sensitive, but not invisible, while mono is stretchy, invisible, and cheap, but also thick, has memory, and not very strong. Anyway, where I'm going with this is I'm thinking about running braid with a similar diameter to 30lb mono (something like 130lb) just to ensure it runs through the guides properly. We had a week with Shaun Anning out of Watchet, 8 of us, six on mono, two on braid, all using 8oz grip leads, none of us had any problems. 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